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James Skipper Prison Tape #3
Avoyelles Correction Center Transcription
CD 7Q1P10BD
Date: 07/27/06
Time: 22:04:35
Duration: 14:18
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Hello. Hello.
This is MCI. This call originates from a Louisiana Correctional Facility and may be recorded or monitored.
That's Skipper calling.
I have a collect call from:
James Skipper
An inmate at Avoyelles Correctional Center. To accept dial or say "5" and hold. (beep) Your call is being connected. Thank you for using MCI.
James: What'd you say boy?
Justin: What's going on Skip?
James: Where you at? They (inaudible) this evening didn't they?
Justin: Yes indeed.
James: I said that nigger must be gonna have to work late today.
Justin: I forgot all about you man.
James: Awe man, I say ...
Justin: Went down there and a motor went down at the plant. A little small motor but its important. Had to get it straight.
James: Ya'll had to get it on line huh?
Justin: Yeah.
James: Oh. You had to go do all that? Do that when it go down?
Justin: Yeah. Down there at the plant.
James: Oh, you done went to school for all this now huh?
Justin: Yeah, well, usually, there's a lot on the job.
James: Yeah. Ok then. Now, when's that boy get my letter?
Justin: Who dat?
James: James.
Justin: If he did, he in California.
James: What he doing down there?
Justin: Going to the Tensas reunion.
James: Oh, he went out there?
Justin: Yeah.
James: Went this weekend huh?
Justin: Yeah.
James: What? When he left?
Justin: The day he had to be.
James: Him and who?
Justin: I don't know. 'Cause he didn't tell me.
James: Bonnie didn't go there.
Justin: Nah.
James: He aint take her no wheres.
Justin: Mm uh.
James: Shit. He might've took Carolyn.
Justin: I don't know. Booty George up there fourth time.
James: Huh? Booty George back here.
Justin: Yeah.
James: Shit. Damn boy, yeah, he aint going up there then. Booty George aint gonna let him in there.
Justin: Uh uh.
James: What been happening? What the judge talk about last night?
Justin: She didn't talk about too much of nothing. She was just talking about what need to be done.
James: Yeah.
Justin: And yeah.
James: What Poppa gonna do?
Justin: Huh?
James: What Poppa gonna do?
Justin: He just called me.
James: What he talking about?
Justin: This deal in paper. His recusal.
James: Yeah?
Justin: Yeah.
James: I aint got the paper today.
Justin: And look. Now, gosh doggit! He testified that he was uh, that he had testified in your case. It's in the paper.
James: Oh yeah?
Justin: Yeah, 'bout him being called as a witness at your recusal.
James: Oh yeah?
Justin: Yeah.
James: They put all that in there?
Justin: Yeah.
James: I tell you what they did now. They denied that recusal on Judge Booth on me.
Justin: Who did?
James: The Third Circuit.
Justin: Did they?
James: I got it today. But, I aint worried about that. Because you know why. Because my post conviction with that recusal is more stronger. See, Judge George never ruled on the evidence that was presented. He only ruled that he found on motions that was still pending. Which I still think is wrong, but I don't want to go to the Supreme Court with it, gonna take me too long.
Justin: Right.
James: So, see I already got a recusal on him on the post conviction. I can bring the same evidence back in on the post conviction, because that evidence was never ruled on, so therefore, it's still alive to be heard.
Justin: Right.
James: Judge George had ruled because Judge Booth had ruled, had denied my Motion to Reconsider his ruling, on that Motion to ???? He didn't have to make no ruling on. So I aint worried 'bout that. He didn't rule on the motion saying that he found no evidence that required him to be recused.
Justin: Ok.
James: He just ruled that he found no motions still pending.
Justin: Right.
James: So I don't want to go the Supreme Court with that because it gonna take me ten to twelve months.
Justin: Uh huh.
James: But now I already got a motion pending on the motion to uh, on my post conviction, which I got stronger issues in.
Justin: Right.
James: So what I'm gonna do is now is file a motion to ask them to set a date to have the motion to recuse on that heard.
Justin: Ok.
James: I don't want to fight that other issue no more.
Justin: Right.
James: Because it's a fifty fifty issue even if I go to the Supreme Court, I'm looking at another ten to twelve months.
Justin: Right.
James: And I just don't want to do that. I figure the issue that I got in my Supreme, my motion, my post conviction are more stronger for to be heard.
Justin: Ok.
James: See, he had made, he say he made a mistake and ruled on the other issue before he saw. Ok fine. So the Third Circuit saying since he had already ruled on them, the judge could rule that there was no motion pending at that time that had to be ruled on. Fine. But now I got a motion pending which is properly filed. I got motion to recuse pending. So now I'm gonna ask him to recuse himself from hearing my post conviction. Which is, I can bring back in the same issues that I had on the other issue ...
Justin: (interrupted)
James: Because they were never ruled on.
Justin: Right. Hold on a second.
James: Alright.
Justin: Yeah. I'm with you.
James: Yeah. So see. He never ruled on the evidence or the testimony.
Justin: Uh huh.
James: And so he never ruled on the evidence or the testimony, so I still can bring that back in.
Justin: Right.
James: He just ruled at the time that he dismissed it, he found no motions that were still pending that required Judge Booth to be recused on.
Justin: Right.
James: So now I'm a just gonna file that motion asking to set a date for the recusal on that.
Justin: Ok.
James: And let Cathy Johnson hear it.
Justin: Ok.
James: I aint gonna ask for it, I aint gonna ask her this time to appoint no judge outside the court.
Justin: Right.
James: I'm gonna let her hear it.
Justin: Right.
James: Yep. So that's what I'm gonna do. So that boy's gone to California, huh?
Justin: Yeah.
James: So, I know. I just got that today, so I know they probably got theirs on that deal.
Justin: Uh huh.
James: But I aint got my paper today. But they got Poppa in there huh?
Justin: Yeah.
James: Ub, ok. Is he ready for it?
Justin: A we yeah.
James: What you think? You think she gonna knock him out?
Justin: Yeah. She'll knock him out.
James: She aint with'em is she?
Justin: Nab. I told her last night. I said, Judge, let me tell you something. I said, we sent you to that courthouse for a reason.
James: Mm hum.
Justin: Not to be impartial. But to be fair.
James: Right.
Justin: I say, and let me tell you something. There's a time to bunt, but there's a time to hit a home run.
James: That's right.
Justin: And I said now, any time you got a man throwing curves, but yet the speed just right for you to knock it out.
James: Right.
Justin: I say, you got to stand up. I say, you can't be passive on all this stuff, 'cause we can't tell what kind of judge we got.
James: That's right.
Justin: And I told her last night.
James: Now you talking. You talking, and your talking good.
Justin: Right.
James: But now, you got to show by your actions.
Justin: That what I'm saying.
James: Now I always said that. Now white can't be together all the time.
Justin: Right.
James: Where he talked about that school board.
Justin: Right.
James: And they can't be together all the time. Somebody got to go against the grain some time.
Justin: Right. Right. And we don't need you just down there for no ... we don't need you down there just for no civil matters. We don't need you down there just for no civil matters and no divorces and all that. You know, you picked your people that you wanted. Now, you got to stand up for us sometime.
James: That's right. And be fair.
Justin: And be fair. If the evidence don't prove itself, ok, I understand that.
James: There you go.
Justin: But don't dodge a bullet.
James: Don't dodge a ... You right now. You told her right.
Justin: Yep.
hlmes: But now. do she agree with that?
Justin: She agree. And let me tell you something. One thing she don't want is to lose me.
James: Uh huh. 'Cause she know now, you'll set in on her.
Justin: Shit. I'll set in on her. 'Cause let me tell you something, she called me two or three times a week.
James: Now, what the deal with, who, what the deal, what John gonna do this year?
Justin: I don't know. He just called me just now. John fired Kurt Parish.
James: Who?
Justin: Kurt Parish.
James: Who called you?
Justin: Jim.
James: Yeah.
Justin: Say Parish over there trying to commit suicide in Joneville. Police trying to get him out the house.
James: Nah?
Justin: Yeah. John fired him yesterday. James: For what? Wonder what he did?
Justin: Well, it's a lot of stuff on the internet.
James: Mm mm.
Justin: Yeah.
James: Oh ok.
Justin: Concerning the D.A.'s Office and John Jones and Randy and all of 'em.
James: What?
Justin: And Randy and called. He called Hugh Matthews in and the A.G.'s Office to investigate his office.
James: Is that right?
Justin: Hold on just a minute? Yo.
James: Yeah.
Justin: Alright.
James: But now. He fired Hugh?
Justin: Yep.
James: He think Hugh did that?
Justin: No he didn't fire Hugh. He got Hugh Matthews doing the internal investigation.
James: Oh, he fired Kurt Parish?
Justin: Fired Kurt Parish and he calling the A.G. 's Office in.
James: Wasn't Kurt Parish the uh, Kurt Parish used to be a probation officer didn't he?
Justin: Yeah.
James: And he quit.
Justin: He quit and he was working for John over at Jonesville.
James: Right. Oh, ok then.
Justin: Yeah.
James: I wonder what? Now he trying to kill himself now?
Justin: Yes sir.
James: Now aint that something now?
Justin: Man, Judge. Cathy Johnson say yesterday, he on a rampage at both his offices.
James: At both of 'em?
Justin: Yes sir.
James: You think he gonna try to run again?
Justin: Nah. He said somebody was trying to kill him off from the inside.
James: On the inside uh ...
Justin: Yeah. From his office. Somebody's giving out infonnation and stuff.
James: Well ??? gonna run aint he?
Justin: Yeah.
James: What you think Ronnie Mack gonna do?
Justin: He gonna run for judge. He gonna .. See, Ronnie Mack either gonna run for D.A .... Uh, Jack McNemar running for D.A.
James: Who is Jack McNemar? I know that name.
Justin: Over in Vidalia. Got all that hair on his face.
James: Yeah. He gonna run for D.A.?
Justin: Y eah. You know they used to have them stores.
James: Yeah. But I don't want Brad in there man.
Justin: Well, Brad aint gonna win. They already telling him he aint gonna win.
James: I think that's why, why, why he did fire, why did he move Ronnie Mack down?
Justin: Well, he do it to discourage Ronnie Mack, cause ...
James: 'Cause Ronnie Mack's been loyal.
Justin: Ronnie Mack's planning on running against Leo. See, ya'll gonna blister Leo, so, with these recusals.
James: Yeah.
Justin: I just found out tonight, that when Jimmy and Don got arrested over there in the Bogue Chitta in Mississippi, Randy took Leo to act as Jimmy's dam lawyer.
James: Come on man.
Justin: Yes sir.
James: He can't do that.
Justin: Yes sir. Jim got all that information.
James: Huh?
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Justin: Yes sir.
James: Jim done got all that?
Justin: All of it. Say, he told 'em when he got arrested that he worked for Holsom Bread Company.
James: Mm mm.
Justin: After he got booked in, he told them he was a pipefitter.
James: Well, he kept lying didn't he?
Justin: Yes sir.
James: Jim done got all that?
Justin: All that. Jim got the Wildlife and Fisheries man subpoenaed.
James: All that?
Justin: All that.
James: He bringing all that in there?
Justin: Everybody coming.
James: And Jim say he don't (inaudible)?
Justin: Yes sir. Hold on just a minute.
James: Alright.
Justin: yo.
James: You trying to call Big Jim?
Justin: Big wig. Skipper on the line.
James: What you say son?
Jim: Say Skip.
James: What are doing boy? What's going on?
Jim: I got'em under sequester now and I'm fixing to bring a few on in. You oughta be getting your subpoena pretty quick.
James: You aint gonna bring me down there. Shit. Ya'll don't want to hear from me. Ya'lI know I'll tell everything. (laughing) You aint gonna see (inaudible) Randy boy.
Jim: He got' em all under sequester way.
James: Where they can't talk. Hey. But I tell you what he got to do Jim. He got to keep them out of that back office.
Jim: Yes sir.
James: You can't let 'em gather up in that back office. That's where they'll set in on you at now. You want 'em out that back office. You want 'em to keep 'em ... You want 'em to keep Judge Booth and Randy and them out they office. Out that judge chamber.
Jim: If my attorney ask you if Ernie Banks come got you out of prison, you gonna tell him?
James: Yes sir I'm gonna tell him? And he rode me around in that white Yukon. Took me to get me something to eat. Took me to get me something eat and everything. Yes sir.
Jim: Are you going to tell him Gene Allen took you from door to door in Ferriday?
James: Huh?
Jim: Ricky and Allen.
James: Oh. What you say?
Jim: I say, you gonna tell 'em that Gene took you from door to door in Ferriday?
James: And gave me a cell phone downstairs but it wouldn't work because I was up under the jail.
Justin: Big wig.
Jim: Huh?
Justin: Big wig? Somebody's gonna have one baby.
Jim: (inaudible) But I want to ask him gonna tell 'em that he went over there and done that physical for Gene over in Winnfield.
James: No aint go to Winnfield. What physical?
Justin: He didn't go to Winnfield.
James: Uh uh. I went to Pollock.
Jim: Pollock?
James: I went to Pollock, Louisiana. I took that CDL test.
Jim: (inaudible)
James: Huh?
Jim: You gonna tell 'em that ya'll mailed the absentees at the post office in Vidalia?
James: Fifty three of 'em.
Justin: Uh shit.
James: We put fifty three of 'em in the mailbox over there.
(inaudible)
James: Look, we didn't have but fifty three absentees mail in ballots, and we took 'em all to Vidalia. And his handwriting all over 'em.
Justin: All over 'em man. I mean all over 'em.
James: See what I'm saying. They just aint checked for 'em. They just don't know where to check at.
Jim: Skipper, I got one more question for you.
James: Alright.
Jim: Did you go with Gene Allen out to Leo's house to get some money to reduce a drug dealers bond in Ferriday?
James: On that three hundred thousand dollar bond. Leo got seven thousand off of that. He say he had to have it first then. If you go check the records in the clerks office, there's a three hundred thousand power of attorney file. We give it to Ms. Lawrence. That's who we filed it with. It's a three hundred thousand dollar power. We went to Baton Rouge and picked it up and brought it back and filed it. The man sent sixty thousand to Philip Letard. A sixty thousand dollar cashiers check. Thirty thousand was for the bond and the rest was for Philip to take to Kay, seven went to Judge Booth. I already told the FBI all this though man. You gotta subpoena. Look. You gotta subpoena to the FBI agent, Bill Chestler, of Monroe. That's who came and interviewed. I told him all this.
Justin: James.
James: Uh huh?
Justin: Call me back.
James: Alright, I'm gonna call right back, 'cause...
Justin: Call right back. I'm gonna call you right back. As soon as he call me.
James: Alright.
Justin: Bye.
Call ended.
Transcribed by Suzanne Leon |
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